Best Rose for Your Garden??

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by KBW » September 25th, 2016, 8:00 pm

Hi all,
Thanks for your kind comments. I will make an attempt to answer all the comments..
Izhar wrote:Having said that.. these roses have been observed in Islamabad which has unique weather of Himalayan footsteps...
True Izhar sb. That is why I categorically mentioned in my paper that "I will share my personal view on this which will be "my view" based on my personal research carried out in a certain climate (Islamabad, similar to zone 9b USA with the addition of monsoon)." So please take it as a personal point of view which has been shared with the friend on the basis of "take it or leave it". Members should take their decision based on their respective climate / soil conditions of which they are the best judge.
sage wrote: All i wonder is where to get these roses in Lahore, whenever i visited some nurseries usually nursery men are unaware of the names....plz do guide from where can i purchase these Category A roses??
Sage, please contact Changa Nursery Pattoki. You will get most of the roses mentioned in Cat A & B. Some of the roses I have imported from UK and Germany and may not be available in Pakistan but most given in Cat A and Cat B are available with either Changa or Thekedar Nursery in Pattoki.
Muhammad Arif Khan wrote:THANK YOU KBW. It has brightened my day, such are the contributions expected from the learned members.
I feel like re-introducing roses in my garden. Recommend me five roses (available at Pattoki) which will do well in pots.
Regards, Arif
Sir I am honoured. On comparative basis, hardly any rose does well in pot as compared to ground. I grow over 80 roses in pots (not as a choice but as a compulsion) and there is always some problem that I have to fight out. The same rose in ground performs much better and gives very few problems. So my first advise would be to grow roses in ground, if you really want them to perform. However, if you have chosen to go for pots out of some compulsion than I would recommend following roses. I am not recommending large size bushes from Cat A roses though they are excellent performers in ground and also those that are not available in Pattoki..... so recommending those that are small size, can be grown in pots and area available with either Changa or Thekedar.
1. Glamis Castle
2. Rose de Rescht
3. The Dark Lady
4. Ebb Tide
5. Burgundy Iceberg
6. Jubilee Celebration
7. Alan Ticthcmarsh
8. Chartreuse de Parme
9. Pat Austin
10. Just Joey
Umair wrote:I have a few questions:
1. Does you Category A roses bloom round year for you.
2. If yes what is the variation rate in bloom size and count in summer, monsoon and winter.
This is what I wrote in my paper Umair sb, "No rose cultivars performs as well in hot summers and monsoon as they do in spring or when it is cooler (20*C to 30*C is ideal). However, few roses kept blooming throughout, with small intervals, and had reasonably good bloom size, shade and fragrance."
In my view, No rose performs as well in hot summers or monsoon as it does in spring or mild summers (Skardu, Murree etc). For most roses, performance is best in spring and reasonably good in fall. Cat A are those roses that in my garden showed a reasonably good performance in summers and monsoon too. This means there blooms were still presentable and there was still some fragrance though both size and fragrance were not as good as they were in spring. However, they gave no trouble and were presentable. Cat B was a mix whereas Cat C roses either did not bloom in summers / monsoon or if they bloomed, they produced ugly looking small sized blooms with no or very mild fragrance.

In my humble experience, SECRET TO HAPPY ROSE GROWING LIES IN SELECTING THE CULTIVAR THAT PERFORMS THE BEST IN YOUR AREA AND NOT IN BUYING THE CULTIVAR THAT LOOKS MOST BEAUTIFUL TO YOU IN THE PHOTOS OR IN THE NURSERY. If both these things combine somewhere than you are lucky.....

From above, one might conclude that one would end up growing such roses that don't look nice but perform very well in our areas. NO. That is not true. There is so much variety available nowadays. You just need to be patient and you will get what grows well and looks stunning too.

best regards

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by KBW » September 25th, 2016, 8:03 pm

BTW.... do I still have to upload pics first on photobucket and then click Img button and post the link in it? Is there any easy way?

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by Izhar » September 26th, 2016, 9:43 am

KBW wrote:BTW.... do I still have to upload pics first on photobucket and then click Img button and post the link in it? Is there any easy way?
I can do it, if you grant permission...

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by Muhammad Arif Khan » September 26th, 2016, 10:07 am

Izhar wrote:
KBW wrote:BTW.... do I still have to upload pics first on photobucket and then click Img button and post the link in it? Is there any easy way?
I can do it, if you grant permission...
Means NO.

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by KBW » September 27th, 2016, 7:27 pm

Izhar sb, it will be inconvenient for you. Is there any way I can post pics without uploading them on photobucket?

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by Izhar » September 28th, 2016, 9:27 am

You can attach 3 pics in one post without using photobucket....

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by Muhammad Arif Khan » September 28th, 2016, 9:57 am

KBW,Thank you, sir, I find No.4, 5 and 10 to my liking, Please suggest some LARGE flowered yellow and white, Thanks
Arif

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by farah fayyaz » September 28th, 2016, 9:47 pm

Izhar wrote:You can attach 3 pics in one post without using photobucket....
Please do tell how is it possible?

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

Post by KBW » September 29th, 2016, 6:18 am

Muhammad Arif Khan wrote:KBW,Thank you, sir, I find No.4, 5 and 10 to my liking, Please suggest some LARGE flowered yellow and white, Thanks
Arif
Sir, many options in yellow but what is available to us in Pattoki, very few good whites. I mean there are whites available (like Maria Shriver) but I didn't find them trouble free in my garden and they need lot of care. I am focussing on roses that do well without much care and I will only recommend to you what I have personally tried.

Winchester Cathedral is another white that you might like to try. It is robust and hardy and blooms whole year non-stop. However, since it's a sport of Mary Rose, it has the tendency to revert back to its parent Mary Rose. Three canes on my WC bush have reverted to Mary Rose and produce large pink blooms while remaining canes still produce medium sized white WC blooms.

In yellow, I would suggest Golden Celebration, Casino and Graham Thomas. All three behave like a climber in our climate (Casino is actually listed as a climber) and therefore, would need large space. Golden Celebration produces the most fragrant and beautiful looking blooms out of three.

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Re: Best Rose for Your Garden??

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