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Re: Adeniums

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Thank you for explaining. I was asking about the common/local name of Cordex, as I have not come across this in the Nurseries. I looked it up on nut, but didn't find it there either.
A new point has come up in your explanation about grafting of Plumeria.I have two young plants(8"-12") grown from imported seeds gifted by a senior member here,last year.Do you advise that these be grafted on another existing bigger plant I have in ground or some other root stock?
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Most of the adenium plants available in nurseries having 12-15 inch height grown in one gallon plastic pots usually have height of 12-18 inches. Usually these are imported from Thailand are are available around Rs 800 which is on a higher end. For seeds to attain this size takes at least 4-5 years. Usually a well grown adenium plant having 12-18 height raised from seed have at-least 7-8 branches and individual grafting can done (weather permitting) on individual branches by using different cuttings of adenium varieties.

I am told that the cordex of the Desi Adenium Cordex is referred as Chumpa. The Desi Cordex is known to experienced nursery owners who are familiar with the its suppliers.

Regarding Plumeria's,the more thicker the size of the scion the better chances for the scion graft to be successful. The thickness of the scion should be atleast 1/2 inch. There are plenty of videos in the net having detailed instructions regarding grafting of plumeria.

Grafting should not be undertaken these days owning to high humidity which increase the chance for rot to occur.

September would be more ideal.
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Munir wrote:Khurram Sb, you mentioned about grafting of Adeniums cutting on a desi Cordex plant. What is the local/common name of Cordex plant,since it is also not available on net ?
cut branches of adeniums which are inevitably thrown away by friends when they prune their Adeniums.
Khurram when would you be pruning your Adeniums
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Muhammad Arif Khan wrote:
Munir wrote:Khurram Sb, you mentioned about grafting of Adeniums cutting on a desi Cordex plant. What is the local/common name of Cordex plant,since it is also not available on net ?
cut branches of adeniums which are inevitably thrown away by friends when they prune their Adeniums.
Khurram when would you be pruning your Adeniums
Arif
Thank you for clarifying. Does it mean that the cut branches of Adenium are called "desi Cordex" ?
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by Muhammad Arif Khan » December 25th, 2013, 6:25 pm

cut branches of adeniums which are inevitably thrown away by friends when they prune their Adeniums.
Khurram when would you be pruning your Adeniums
Sir from April onwards. You are welcome to have as many cuttings as you wish.
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by Munir » December 25th, 2013, 10:22 pm
Thank you for clarifying. Does it mean that the cut branches of Adenium are called "desi Cordex" ?
Munir Sahib what Arif Sahib is referring is that the Adeniums need to be pruned inevitably to ensure better flowering. The cut branches of individual Adenium varieties can be utilized better by grafting them in desi cordex. Most of the growers make new stock by using this technique.
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The Adenium mostly in nurseries are of Obesum variety which is less cold hardy. The biggest challenge is to protect from cold temp in plains of Punjab in Dec & January and the best course of action is by placing them in greenhouse and refrain from giving them any water.

There are some Adenium varieties which are relatively more cold resistant than the typical varieties. These varieties (Arabicum, Boehmianum , Swazicum & Multiflorum) grow wild in Africa and stand a better chance of withstanding cold. I have seen on rare occasions some of Arabicum & Swazicum being offered for sale. Even nursery owners are not aware of these cultivars. However during the winters all the Arabicums, Swazicum varieties etc still require protection from cold by placing them in a green house and should not be watered.

Below are three pictures of Arabicum Adeniums "desert like" species which grow wild in near the coast on the western half of the southern Arabian peninsula (in Yemen and Saudi Arabia). They can be easily distinguish by the size of massive thicker cordex and relatively thick fleshy leaves.
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The last picture below is of a Adenium variety known as 'Socotranum' which is endemic to the island of Socotra in the Indian Ocean, south of the Arabian Peninsula and east of the horn of Somalia. In Thailand the Socotranum varieties have been successfully crossed with Arabicums and most of the Socotranum Adeniums are hybrid offsets of Arabicum. Presumably this variety shown below is most likely to have been propagated by crossing a Socotranum with an Arabicum variety. Generally it's very difficult to find a true Socotranum variety.
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I came across an article on Socotra titled "Socotra: Where the Weird Things Are" and turns out it is home to some unique & rare flora not found elsewhere in the world. Notable among them are 'Dendrosicyos socotrana—the cucumber tree' and the 'Dragon Blood Tree'. The flora can be viewed on the following url.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/ ... hotography

and i was able to find some photos of Adenium obesum sokotranum displayed below
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Source: Images taken from "Socotra: Where the Weird Things Are" June, 2012 National Geographic Magazine. The article can be read online at http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/ ... lose-modal
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Adenium Arabicum
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Re: Adeniums

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Oh! Wow bonsai Andenium!
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