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Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 19th, 2011, 10:29 pm
by aykhan
I pulled most of my roses out of the ground in the heat of May-June. I now want to put them back in again since the weather is somewhat better in the 30s. I want to do it right this time. There are various recommendations for soil mixes for roses and I would like to get the opinion of this forum also. I was thinking, dig a hole 2 feet deep and wide per rose (I know it might be overkill but what the heck!). Place rotted cow manure (gobar) in the bottom 6 inches and then top it off with a mixture of one part native soil (which is bhal), one part peat moss (pH 6 with slow release fertilizer - Pindstrup) and one part Gardengreen compost. Any opinions will be appreciated.
While you're at it, any suggestions for a soil mix for Sweet Patrea?

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 7:14 am
by M Farooq
aykhan wrote:I pulled most of my roses out of the ground in the heat of May-June. I now want to put them back in again since the weather is somewhat better in the 30s. I want to do it right this time. There are various recommendations for soil mixes for roses and I would like to get the opinion of this forum also. I was thinking, dig a hole 2 feet deep and wide per rose (I know it might be overkill but what the heck!). Place rotted cow manure (gobar) in the bottom 6 inches and then top it off with a mixture of one part native soil (which is bhal), one part peat moss (pH 6 with slow release fertilizer - Pindstrup) and one part Gardengreen compost. Any opinions will be appreciated.
One can feel that your soil mix is quite fancy and sounds professional. My brother was really fond of roses and every year he and I would do the same; pulled out the roses and kept a minimum of root stock with old soil. Then we used to mix old cow manure and sifted bhal soil very well rather than place layers of different things. Judging by the colours the bhalo soil used become dark brown on wetting. After planting the root stock, we would top the soil a layer of just old manure. That was it. This simplest possible soil mix used to give a wonderful time the following winter.

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 6:12 pm
by aykhan
So I'm not the only crazy one :D ! The reason to put manure at the bottom is so the new roots don't burn and also when the sturdy roots reach down finally, there is good nourishment for them.

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 7:12 pm
by ayub
Plz elaborate the "pulling out", do you put the rose plants in some container for a time being or just pull out and after putting the soil mix replant it instantly.

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 8:16 pm
by M Farooq
ayub wrote:Plz elaborate the "pulling out", do you put the rose plants in some container for a time being or just pull out and after putting the soil mix replant it instantly.
Pulling out meant that one starts digging out the soil around the perimeter of the plant's roots (may be one ~ 2 foot diameter) and enough depth that main root is not damaged. The root stock then comes out as a block. The perimeter is wide enough as not to damage the main roots of the roses.

SInce there is enough soil around the rose roots, it is not necessary to place it in a pot. It is ideal to transfer the rose back to new soil the same day. May be you can keep them under shade if the rose has to be re-planted the next day.

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 20th, 2011, 10:02 pm
by aykhan
Well I pulled them out careful not to damage the roots and have them in in clay pots now.

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 21st, 2011, 11:37 am
by Muhammad Arif Khan
Is this pulling out and putting in every year NECESSARY?

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 21st, 2011, 6:54 pm
by aykhan
No. I just pulled them out since I wanted the flower colors adjusted and thought I would put a better soil mix since they hadn't flowered as well as I had wanted them to in the spring. As the knowledge of gardening increases, I guess one wants to start things over and do them right :D

Re: Soil mix for roses

Posted: July 22nd, 2011, 6:46 pm
by shahwon
aykhan wrote:I pulled most of my roses out of the ground in the heat of May-June. I now want to put them back in again since the weather is somewhat better in the 30s. I want to do it right this time. There are various recommendations for soil mixes for roses and I would like to get the opinion of this forum also. I was thinking, dig a hole 2 feet deep and wide per rose (I know it might be overkill but what the heck!). Place rotted cow manure (gobar) in the bottom 6 inches and then top it off with a mixture of one part native soil (which is bhal), one part peat moss (pH 6 with slow release fertilizer - Pindstrup) and one part Gardengreen compost. Any opinions will be appreciated.
While you're at it, any suggestions for a soil mix for Sweet Patrea?
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Roses need 5.5 t0 7.00 pH of soil, check your soil pH
Sorry, I do not have pH details for Sweet Patrea