Project Spring 2014

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Re: Project Spring 2014(Yearning)

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Project Spring Part -2
Respite that might ensure the relaxation to the Project, Grains of wheat, lots and lots of them. 85 Acres and counting, deforestation(wild growth), ploughing and tilling. And how amazing is this crop, sprouts without much of water. Do you always reap what you sow ;-)

Gardener is dainty, Farmer is Harsh.....yet both achieve their goals in totally different ways. Teaches you a lot.....
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Respite/Project 2)

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Beautiful landscape.
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Respite/Project 2)

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It was all wild growth a month back.....
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Respite/Project 2)

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And Now it will bring wonders. And One does always reap what he sows.
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Respite/Project 2)

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Thankyou Mustansir.

Lesson from Nursery Man!
Initially i use to sow seeds in garden soil and mostly in situ. Results were good for hardier seeds whereas delicate F-1 seeds mostly failed. Subsequently i shifted to potting mixes of various composition. Again results were mixed, Seed germination was mostly good but seedlings suffered later on.

This time i went all out for various branded compost and stuff like peat moss, perlite, coco coir etc. Again results are mixed. With careful sowing depths,pre-sowing treatments such as refrigeration and pulverized disease free media.... Seed germination is mostly okay but seedlings gets stuck soon after developing true leaves. What i have concluded after studying soil conditions in such failed pots is that compost based media is difficult to water. A little too much water, seedlings gets displaced and pots remain soggy, whereas watering with misting or shower, only top inch gets wet and down below its too dry.

In a fix what to do, for my last attempt with seeds which failed due to above mentioned reasons i decided to get a lesson from a nursery men. What do they do, considering their germination is very good and seedlings are quick to grow. Afterall its their living.

Account of their Media.
As i visited a nearby nursery today(an ordinary local nursery), i was briefed that their media is 1 part bhal, 1 part sand and 1 part leaf mold(prepared in nursery). To me media appeared very uniform. Compost appeared less or completely dissolved into the soil as well as the sand. It was neither clayee nor sandy. More like true bhal.

Second important thing that they told was they do not cover the bottom hole with anything what so ever for seed starting. I was still covering the pots with newspaper.

Thirdly, against my practice, media was checked for large unwanted particles but not to greater extend. Then the media was filled into the pot and harshly beaten down down firstly with hand and then with something solid (stone/wood frame), so as it creates sort of hard solid ball. Leveled from top and then again pressed level and very very firm.

I always tried that my media should be very fine and soft, but their practice is completely against what i have been doing. They say that firming the soil so much ensures that seeds do not get dislodged from the top into further depth.

Now pots being ready, seeds are placed onto the surface and then sifted leaf mold/coco coir is used to cover the seeds if required.

Above scheme appears logical to me. Hard pressed media will ensure that weeds stay down if any, seeds will remain at the surface just below the fine film of compost, no burning of seeds due very hot media etc.

Lastly i got a dozen pots ready by him, as pots were mine he was not willing to charge anything for soil alone. I have a very strong feeling that this media might just work for me as it always does for them though it is totally opposite to what i have been doing.

If this works of which i am quite hopeful, i will and advice other also, that rather than making one's own seed sowing media why not purchase such ready pots from nurseries at a very low cost, saving on stuff like vermiculite, perlite and compost :-). Things such nursery men haven't even heard of yet they always succeed :P

will share results
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Lesson from Nursery Man)

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Lastly they keep their media quite dry especially after germination, whereas we tend to water as soon as we see top layer drying
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Lesson from Nursery Man)

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At last you got their trade secret. :-D.

I agree with you in all details but would like to share few bits.
They do solarization too. They keep their filled pot under sun covered with transparent plastic sheet for few days.
Standard bhal already have enough sand in it, you can add only leaf mould or local plant fert so called paton key khaad in equal proportion.
The wooden press u mentioned for leveling and pressing is called thuppa/thappa. Can be made from carpenter.
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Lesson from Nursery Man)

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I am sure there will be some hidden tips yet to be disclosed. There is not any alternate to experience. You are spending a lot of energy and resources too for your learning and for ours too. Wishing all the best for future experiments and endeavors. Really grateful for sharing precious information and experiences.
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Lesson from Nursery Man)

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nursery men uses bottom watering technique rather than misting , In my experience it is effective for tiny seedlings
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Re: Project Spring 2014(Lesson from Nursery Man)

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great job farhan bhai...leveling and pressing is a key point i think we ignore and less watering is also important i have seen their pots dry..waiting anxiously for results of your experiment.. :D i am sure after your experiment we will get a get a final seed sowing method which will be a final result of your experiments......thanks a lot for sharing your secrets with us.. :D :mrgreen:
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