Roses From Seeds

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Re: Roses From Seeds

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Is there any professional grower of Roses, can explain whether possible or not.

Infact, I have seen many photos, which seemed to not to be photshoped and rainbow roses is exist(but not fragrant)
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Re: Roses From Seeds

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punchi wrote:Is there any professional grower of Roses, can explain whether possible or not.

Infact, I have seen many photos, which seemed to not to be photshoped and rainbow roses is exist(but not fragrant)
You are right that roses can be grown from seeds with difficulty, after all there are plenty of wild roses naturally growing the in some jungles. There are very good authentic lessons by the University of Texas on growing roses from seeds.

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/rose ... minate.pdf

Rainbow rose, like many other rainbow flowers, do exist but only as cut flowers.
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Tks for sharing good information.

pls suggest whether I should put the (foil packed) seeds directly , or should use with some sort of peat / soil / or any medium
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punchi wrote:Tks for sharing good information.

pls suggest whether I should put the (foil packed) seeds directly , or should use with some sort of peat / soil / or any medium
I have never grown rose from seeds. But for sure it is not a trivial job. In my honest opinion, if the seed packet was only $ 7, just throw it away. I don't trust such a fraudulent website which is selling blue, black and green roses. If you are still interested in trying, whatever the colour may be, please follow the suggestions given in the University of Texas link. They seem to grow the seeds in a sterile medium (germ, fungus free). Peat or any soil is not sterile.

You can browse our Flora of Pakistan Database, and see the extensive collection ( more than 70 types of roses that are available in Pakistani nurseries), along with the location. You can buy many types of rose plants from good nurseries.

viewforum.php?f=37
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Re: Roses From Seeds

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punchi wrote:Is there any professional grower of Roses, can explain whether possible or not.

Infact, I have seen many photos, which seemed to not to be photshoped and rainbow roses is exist(but not fragrant)
punchi bhai, it is very much possible to grow roses from seeds but as highlighted by other members, it's not at all an easy task in warmer areas of Pakistan. However, in areas like Quetta, Abbotabad, Murree etc it can be done, IF you select the right cultivars. There are certain cultivars that grow well from seeds and there are others that don't and one has to know which one? Generally, those hybrids which have now passed 15 to 20 generations are now stable enough to germinate from seeds if right environment if provided during the germination process.

To illustrate the whole point, I would just mention the specie (wild) roses that grow in the cool mountainous areas of GB, Balochistan, KPK and AJ&K in abundance. They all propagate in the wild through seeds in nature, without any care / effort, but please do keep in mind the climate in which they germinate naturally. Than, specie roses are easy to germinate through seeds but hybrids are difficult and the amount of difficulty will vary from cultivar to cultivar. I have grown Gruss an Teplitz with ease in cooler areas and have seen others growing Rosa centifolia too but these are old established roses in our environment. New hybrids would be difficult and even if one succeeds, it will take around 3 years to form a healthy bush which is capable of flowering profusely. Grafting will be the quickest method followed by cuttings in winter. I would suggest winter cutting as it will help you growing own root roses in a period of two year, approx. However, if you are only interested in producing new hybrids than you will have to grow them through seeds as there is no other way.

Please clarify the purpose of undertaking this exercise? Are you doing it out of your interest for growing roses from seeds because it is a very challenging method in Pakistan or you are just doing it because a website describes it as a very viable method? Please do counter check the information given in various websites as it is relevant to the environment of that particular country and may not apply in Pakistan at all.



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Aoa Punchi each & every rose variety is raised from seeds.but its the work relevant to the breeders its not our job.Since roses don,t have the blue or pure black genes so its impossible to create these colors.some breeders have tried to insert Dhelphinium genes into roses but the results are not true blue so far.
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I also agree with the point of Umar sb. As far as I have Searched on Internet they is no pure black, Rainbow and Pure blue colored roses. Scientist have tried hard in obtaining these colors but have failed to obtain these pure color. In fact I have also seen black reddish rose in the local Nursery.
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Yes Mustansir you are right the so called blacks are really dark velvet maroon like Papamieland,Black beauty or Black Bacarra.but even these turn clear red if they are not provided the right conditions for darker factor.
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Re: Roses From Seeds

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Asalam u aliukm

I am trying to grow the roses in different colors, Currently the seeds are in Refrigerater. I am trying to get the colours specially Black, Blue, and Rainbow.

Now question is that whether really , the roses of these colours are not possible, The seeds which I purchase that store claims, and similarly other stores claims it to be. I am not sure about these roses , but will try.

Further if I not succeed, i have plan to visit China, for my business work, from there i have plan to visit these farms myself and will check from my own eyes whether these colours exists or not....... Further i have some photos of black, blue, rainbow which i already shared.
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Re: Roses From Seeds

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What are the end results? any success in rose propagation from seeds?
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