Chinese marwa versus Thai marwa

[aykhan]

I bought a plant called Chinese marwa for Rs 200 and another called Thai marwa for Rs 800. They are both marwas but I'm wondering if they go by different botanical names. The Thai marwa has broader leaves and is supposed to be dwarf. Can anyone tell me the differences between the two so I am better able to assess where to put them in the ground and how o prune them. Thanks.

[Izhar]

A picture worth Thousand words..

[UMAR KHAN]

AY Khan sb please post some pictures.but i m definitely sure the chinese will be the Exotica,the dwarf.because its a common practice here every thing small in size is chinese.exotica is really very exotic,u can see Izhars dwarf type in full glory.

[aykhan]

Yes ofcourse Here are the pictures. The first one is chinese with the smaller leaves and the other is thai with the broader leaves. Then the last is them both side by side. The Thai is supposed to be the dwarf....but then anything possible in our homeland!
Please see some plant IDs I posted.

[Izhar]

Broad leaved may be a Murraya paniculata and the narrow leaved Murraya exotica

[aykhan]

Izhar sahib I thought both names were synonyms and that seems to what I find on Davesgarden and other websites.

[UMAR KHAN]

Khan sb what ever the type but i m surprised to c the price.marwa is not that so much expensive! Marwa for Rs 800/ any thing is posible in our country.

[Izhar]

M. paniculata is a medium to large shrub with blooms having their broad petals bending toward their base where as M. exotica is the dwarf version and the narrow bloom petals are mostly straight..

[aykhan]

Thanks again! Umar saheb the Thai marwa was 1200 and I was able to get it down to 800. What can a person do beyond this? Here we are cheated so much that I have really stopped thinking too much. Agar kissi ko haram khana hai to Allah ko jawab dey hai. Paisa aani jaani cheeze hai aur kismat ka us ko milna hi hai; what bothers me more than ridiculously high prices is when they lie and sell something which it is not. That totally messess up by landscaping.

[mirafzalkhan]

In the world of botanical names, each name is required to be unique and refer to a single thing. If you are the first to discover a plant, you will give the plant an appropriate name. Subsequently, others may think that they have discovered a new plant, and each of them will give their new plant a suitable name. What happens, after the dust clears and it is discovered that all of these plants are in fact, the same plant? According to the International Society on Botanical Nomenclature, the first given name should take precedence; the other names are rejected, and thereafter referred to as synonyms. So a synonym, in plant names, is not like a synonym in our common language. In this context, a synonym is an illegitimate name, a name which has been rejected, and one which is not to be used, henceforth. "After the dust clears" is my term for the considerable number of years which may have passed before the determination of the "preferred name". In the meanwhile, the use of the synonym may continue unabated for decades until the information filters all the way down to the gardener like us. (http://tomclothier.hort.net/page46.html)
In this case I think the old name was Murraya exotica, but after some time a new specie paniculata is introduced and Murraya exotica becomes its synonym.
Now the common species of Genus Murraya are:
Murraya paniculata, a medium to large shrub or tree with maximum height of 15-20 ft.
Murraya exotica, a small shrub with a maximum height of 2 ft.
Also the species have some cultivars. ‘Minima’ cultivar of exotica and ‘Lakeview’ cultivar of paniculata. Cultivar refers to plants within a species that are bred with distinctive features. Some cultivars gain popularity because they are particularly pest resistant or because they are known to thrive in certain areas. Other cultivars are valued simply for their beauty or fragrance.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/b/Ruta ... ultivar/0/
http://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_ ... nd=Murraya
Aykhan your Thai Murraya is Murraya Exotica ‘Minima’ & Chinese Murraya is Murraya Paniculata not sure about its cultivar.