Rose Database

Database of Endemic & Garden Plants of Pakistan

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97 - Mary Rose


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Common Name: Mary Rose
Other Names: AUSmary
Type: Shrub. English Rose Collection.
Bred by: David Austin (United Kingdom, 1983).
Description:
Pink. Strong fragrance. Large, full (26-40 petals), cluster-flowered, in small clusters, cupped bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Medium, bushy, compact, upright. Medium, matte, medium green foliage.
Height of 4' to 5' (120 to 150 cm). Width of 3' to 5' (90 to 150 cm).
USDA zone 5b through 10b. Can be used for cut flower or garden. Shade tolerant. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Requires spring freeze protection (see glossary - Spring freeze protection) . Can be grown in the ground or in a container (container requires winter protection).
The Plant Science Dept. of the Nova Scotia Agriculture College evaluated 58 English Roses to assess their hardiness and disease-resistance. Mary Rose was found to be reasonably tolerant to blackspot.

Lineage: Wife of Bath ® × The Miller

Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

Pictures:Pics have been taken by me in Toronto Botanical Gardens, Canada.


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These pics were taken in Toronto Botanical Gardens in end September when the prime bloom was already over. Even at the end of the season, I would say that the bloom was not bad and would be worth watching during spring. The scent was still very strong. A nice David Austin to have.
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98 - The Fairy


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Common Name: The Fairy
Other Names: Perle Rose
Type: Polyantha. Earth Kind ™.
Bred by: Bentall (United Kingdom, 1932).
Description:
Pink, summer heat can turn the flowers almost white.. Mild, apple fragrance. 25 petals. Average diameter 1.5". Small, double (17-25 petals) bloom form. Continuous (perpetual) bloom throughout the season.
Arching, armed with thorns / prickles, compact. Glossy, dark green foliage.
Height of 2' to 4' (60 to 120 cm). Width of 2' to 4' (60 to 120 cm).
USDA zone 4b through 9b. Can be used for container rose, ground cover or hedge. Hardy. shade tolerant. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant.
One of the Roses that "passed the test" in Longwood Garden's Ten-Year Rose Trials.

Lineage: Diploid
Paul Crampel × Lady Gay (hybrid wichurana, Walsh, 1905)


Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

Pictures:Pics have been taken by me in Toronto Botanical Gardens, Canada.


The pic was taken in Toronto Botanical Gardens for the purpose of introducing few new and different roses to the members. We don't see much of Polyantha roses here. I have no idea how will these roses perform in Pakistani climate and I am also not sure about their availability but with growing access to web store world wide, this is not a major issue now. I have observed the growth pattern of this rose at a few places and found it growing well virtually without any maintenance. The bush is very wide, not very high. Ideal for covering an large corner with colour all year round. Should perform well in Abbotabad, Murree, Quetta etc.
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99 - Mothersday


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Common Name: Mothersday
Other Names: Fête des Mères, Morsdag, Muttertag, Muttertagers
Type: Polyantha, Shrub.
Bred by: F.J. Grootendorst (Netherlands, 1949).
Description:
Dark red. Mild to strong fragrance. up to 20 petals. Average diameter 1.25". Medium, double (17-25 petals), cluster-flowered, in large clusters, globular bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Short. Small, glossy foliage.
Height of 1' to 28" (30 to 70 cm).
USDA zone 6b and warmer. Can be used for beds and borders, container rose, cut flower or garden. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that.

Lineage: sport of Dick Koster
Muttertag = Mother's Day.


Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

Pictures:Pics have been taken by me in Toronto Botanical Gardens, Canada.


The pic was taken in Toronto Botanical Gardens for the purpose of introducing few new and different roses to the members. We don't see much of Polyantha roses here. I have no idea how will these roses perform in Pakistani climate and I am also not sure about their availability but with growing access to web store world wide, this is not a major issue now. I have observed the growth pattern of this rose at a few places and found it growing well virtually without any maintenance. The bush is very wide, not very high. Ideal for covering an large corner with colour all year round. Should perform well in Abbotabad, Murree, Quetta etc.
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Very nice work KBW sb. Your catalogue is about to score a century! Hope more people are inspired from your dedication.
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M Farooq wrote: Hope more people are inspired from your dedication.
I hope so. So far it appears I am the only one interested. :)



On page 1 of the thread, roses given in the database have been grouped in broad categories and in each category, roses have been listed in alphabetical order and hyperlinked to their respective entries elsewhere in the database. This has been done to assist the members in searching out the database
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:-) :-) :-)
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KBW the Mothersday is stunning.
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UMARKHANMARDAN wrote:KBW the Mothersday is stunning.
Indeed it is, blooming nonstop all season and hardly any maintenance needed. Even in end Sept, it had over 20 flowers on one bush. I wish it was more fragrant :)
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As and when I get time, I am continuously updating the previous entries. As I explained earlier, my personal experience (or the experience of other knowledgeable people who have personally grown a particular rose) is given at the end of each entry. I will keep adding the experience of members and other people to the concerned entries as and when I get to know about it. This is how I intend making this rose database a comprehensive guide for the members with regard to selecting appropriate roses for their homes, located in different parts of Pakistan.

You would have noticed that I have given lot of importance to performance of a rose in hot climate. It does not mean that I dont value the performance of a rose in cold areas. It only means that hot climates, specially very hot climates challenge a rose bush much more than a cold or mild climate. A rose which has the capability to performs well in hot dry climates is suitable for most parts of Pakistan, IMHO.

Please help me out in gathering this data. Sharing of personal experience is important. Just to tell you, a few lines from Hamza and Mustansir brothers helped me far more in understanding the performance of a particular rose than reading many flashy articles on internet which were written by I dont know who and most probably from a climate which is far different from ours. Quoting from internet without proper research / understanding could be very dangerous.

Please participate in this thread and share your experience. Just write it in simple words and I will shift it to the correct place (and will always quote the reference / authority). Without help from other members, it will be difficult to continue this thread in a meaningful manner. PLEASE DO NOT FEEL THAT YOUR EXPERIENCE DOES NOT MATTER. TO ME, IT MATTERS MUCH MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. GIVE YOUR OBSERVATIONS, NO MATTER IN YOUR VIEW, HOW UNIMPORTANT OR MINOR THEY MIGHT BE.
THANK YOU
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KBW wrote:Please help me out in gathering this data. Sharing of personal experience is important. Just to tell you, a few lines from Hamza and Mustansir brothers helped me far more in understanding the performance of a particular rose than reading many flashy articles on internet which were written by I dont know who and most probably from a climate which is far different from ours. Quoting from internet without proper research / understanding could be very dangerous.

Please participate in this thread and share your experience. Just write it in simple words and I will shift it to the correct place (and will always quote the reference / authority). Without help from other members, it will be difficult to continue this thread in a meaningful manner. PLEASE DO NOT FEEL THAT YOUR EXPERIENCE DOES NOT MATTER. TO ME, IT MATTERS MUCH MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. GIVE YOUR OBSERVATIONS, NO MATTER IN YOUR VIEW, HOW UNIMPORTANT OR MINOR THEY MIGHT BE.
THANK YOU

KBW sb, this raises an important point which we discussed once on phone. The reason for the lack of enthusiastic participation support (which you have been lamenting for a while) is because a majority of people does not know if a local Pakistani rose database exists! Here in this forum we have approx. 10 regular keen contributors. And that's your audience, period. I know so little about roses that I can only appreciate what you are doing. What you and others might do is popularize this forum to increase readership and increase participation. Facebook could be an easy advertisement place for increasing readership and participation.

A colleague mentioned an example that
1. If someone beats the drum with both hands to tell the world that he is doing useful work, then people recognize soon that he is doing nothing except beating the drum.
2. If someone is working with both hands - nobody knows that he is doing something useful. He exists as an unsung hero.
3. The ideal case is to reserve one hand for work and one hand for beating the drum to tell the world that the other hand is doing something useful.

The first example belongs to our hukumraans and second one applies to you! So increase your audience elsewhere as well. I am sure out of 18 crore people in PK, there will be rose lovers who do not know about this database.
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