Summer care for roses

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Re: Summer care for roses

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Dear Mustansir, your plant is in stress and your are giving it chemicals... this will aggravate the problem.. just keep it in semi shade, protect from mid day sun (10:00 am till 4:00 pm) and keep it well watered.. wash the plant in evening.. nowadays weather is dry and there will be least chance of a fungal attack..
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Re: Summer care for roses

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JazakAllah Izhar sb. once again for the help.
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Re: Summer care for roses

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May I suggest something....

Just neglect your roses. Don't bother about them at all and water them only once a week . Don't spray anything, don't give any fertilizers / feeds and let them die of diseases and malnutrition. They will survive I can bet.

Please don't mind I am just joking. What I want to say is that sometimes, extra care is the reason for many abnormalities / diseases. :D In our effort to look after our plants in the best possible manner, we do things which are not really required. Excessive watering, excessive use of fertilizers and un-necessary use of pesticides all have their serious repurcussions on the health of a plant.

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Re: Summer care for roses

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I second KBW's opinion..
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Re: Summer care for roses

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KBW wrote:May I suggest something....

Just neglect your roses. Don't bother about them at all and water them only once a week . Don't spray anything, don't give any fertilizers / feeds and let them die of diseases and malnutrition. They will survive I can bet.

Please don't mind I am just joking. What I want to say is that sometimes, extra care is the reason for many abnormalities / diseases. :D In our effort to look after our plants in the best possible manner, we do things which are not really required. Excessive watering, excessive use of fertilizers and un-necessary use of pesticides all have their serious repurcussions on the health of a plant.

Best of luck and regards
Yes! maybe your saying exactly correct because when I was not present at home for 10 days and came back most of the plant died but only mirabilis and roses were doing great and roses were producing blooms in August And you are saying to water it once a week OMG I water it whenever the soils upper layer is dried up.
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Re: Summer care for roses

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Watering once a week is just a suggestion made in jest :-) Just check when you feel that the pot soil is becoming dry (depending on the weather) water it lightly. Literally bathing the plant frequently in water will make your plants sick. Too much or too little of H2O is dangerous for health ;-)
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Re: Summer care for roses

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The whole thing is that we have to give the plants what they need. Depriving them from what they need OR giving them much more than what they need; both will have serious consequences.

Just consider if a person is just given one chapati and two glasses of water in a day, he will not die immediately but will get weak over a period of time and will catch many diseases due to lack of resistance by the body. Due to those diseases (which it got due to weak body resistance), it will ultimately die.

On the other hand, if we force a person to eat heavy food six times a day, take 30 glasses of water, 10 glasses of milk with honey and in between, feed him with high potency vitamins (to make good any deficinecies that might have occured due to poor food) and just as a precaution so that he doesn't get sick, also give him 1000 mg antibiotics thrice a day, what will happen to that man. He will become sick due to excessive feeding and unnecessary self-medication and his body resistance will ultimately come down to the same place where the person with 2 Chapatis stood, ie, low. So this guy will also become sick and might ultimately die of some serious disease which he might catch due to weak body resistance.

Plants, generally, behave the same way as animals / birds with one major difference that they cant move. While an animal or a bird can refuse to eat or move from a hot to cool location if needed, a plant cant. Therefore, they are more sensitive to environment and the treatment given to them. Feeding fertilizers un-necessarily will make the plant sick and it will untimately die. Over watering will drown the roots, slow down the activity of micro organisms in the soil (which is extremely important) and encourage pests / diseases. Using pesticides without a very solid and compelling reason is also very dangerous, not only for the plant but for your home as well. All pesticides have adverse environmental effects, reduce plants natural ability to resist a pest / disease and kill the predator insects also which are very necessary in a garden. Of course, they are a big hazzard for the humans in the area.

The trick is to strike a balance. You should only water your pots when the initial one inch of soil is dry. However, in summers you have to water more and in winters, the watering is to be reduced. Just like humans who drink more water in summers and less in winters. Fertilizers are to be used with care. Once a month, that too a light doze is ok if the initial potting mix was done with due care. No need to use any pesticides unless the situation is out of control. Keep a plant healthy so that it is able to fight diseases at its own or with the help of other insects like lady birds, spiders etc. Balance is the key.

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Re: Summer care for roses

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Mustansir watering is very delicate issue. Even after so much still i can not claim that my watering technique..duration/amount is correct. Yes it is very difficult not to water when you see top soil dried up. This is what the journey is all about.....one day you will find balance.
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Re: Summer care for roses

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KBW wrote:The whole thing is that we have to give the plants what they need. Depriving them from what they need OR giving them much more than what they need; both will have serious consequences.

Just consider if a person is just given one chapati and two glasses of water in a day, he will not die immediately but will get weak over a period of time and will catch many diseases due to lack of resistance by the body. Due to those diseases (which it got due to weak body resistance), it will ultimately die.

On the other hand, if we force a person to eat heavy food six times a day, take 30 glasses of water, 10 glasses of milk with honey and in between, feed him with high potency vitamins (to make good any deficinecies that might have occured due to poor food) and just as a precaution so that he doesn't get sick, also give him 1000 mg antibiotics thrice a day, what will happen to that man. He will become sick due to excessive feeding and unnecessary self-medication and his body resistance will ultimately come down to the same place where the person with 2 Chapatis stood, ie, low. So this guy will also become sick and might ultimately die of some serious disease which he might catch due to weak body resistance.

Plants, generally, behave the same way as animals / birds with one major difference that they cant move. While an animal or a bird can refuse to eat or move from a hot to cool location if needed, a plant cant. Therefore, they are more sensitive to environment and the treatment given to them. Feeding fertilizers un-necessarily will make the plant sick and it will untimately die. Over watering will drown the roots, slow down the activity of micro organisms in the soil (which is extremely important) and encourage pests / diseases. Using pesticides without a very solid and compelling reason is also very dangerous, not only for the plant but for your home as well. All pesticides have adverse environmental effects, reduce plants natural ability to resist a pest / disease and kill the predator insects also which are very necessary in a garden. Of course, they are a big hazzard for the humans in the area.

The trick is to strike a balance. You should only water your pots when the initial one inch of soil is dry. However, in summers you have to water more and in winters, the watering is to be reduced. Just like humans who drink more water in summers and less in winters. Fertilizers are to be used with care. Once a month, that too a light doze is ok if the initial potting mix was done with due care. No need to use any pesticides unless the situation is out of control. Keep a plant healthy so that it is able to fight diseases at its own or with the help of other insects like lady birds, spiders etc. Balance is the key.

Best regards
JazakAllah KBW sb. for this detailed answer for my question and it will indeed help. You said about natural resistance to the pests. But I use pesticide at that time when pests have totally gained success over plants and plants eventually die.
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Re: Summer care for roses

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Found the Cause. http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/garden/02911.html
Yes! It was due to fertilizing it in harsh weather and hot weather. JazakAllah once again all the respected members for the help.
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