Rose Database

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UMARKHANMARDAN
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Re: Rose Database

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Hammad KBW is right temps has great impact on any rose plus the sun light. Nagreette, Black Baccara, Pappa mieland, Black beauty,Oklohoma, Mr Lincolin all are maroon but in cold temps & not in full light length. The color also depends on the amount of fertilizers. All maroons in summer will be true reds.Not only marrons but many other colors like Double delight, Paradise, Freesia depends on the sun light length & fertilizer.Double delight will remain just cream or with very low tented red if its in shade.Petal count also depends on the temps.
KBW i all the three are of same parentage but there is difference in growing habits & to some extent in the color shades.But brother roses is after all a rose what ever the variety.It has been so much hybridised that no other flower has been done that much.You have progrssed so much dear. I really enjoy discussions with you.
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The Dark Lady

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132 - The Dark Lady


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Picture contributed by Rafique from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken on 30 Oct 2013.


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Picture contributed by Rafique from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken on 30 Oct 2013.


Common Name: The Dark Lady
Other Names: AUSbloom, Dark Lady
Type: Shrub. English Rose Collection
Bred by: David Austin (United Kingdom, 1991).
Description:
Dark red. Old rose fragrance. Full (26-40 petals) bloom form. Prolific, blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Height of up to 4' (up to 120 cm). Width of up to 5' (up to 150 cm).
USDA zone 5b through 10b.

Lineage: Mary Rose ® × Prospero ®



Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

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Picture contributed by Rafique from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken on 30 Oct 2013.


Rafiq's Comments
One of well known of David Austins, The Dark Lady. Beautiful dark red(maroon) colored double flower. Flowers have strong fragrance. Bush is not growing vigorously as the others ones(fragrant plum, liv-taylor) are grwoing at nearby locations . Heigt is also less comparitive to others.
As per David Austins documentation, It is small at first but over time becomes quite large, reaching a medium height. Mine is still small after an year.
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Re: Rose Database

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Thanks Rafiq bhai. Updated. :)
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Re: Rose Database

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133 - Crimson Glory Climber
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Picture contributed by Rafique from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken on 03-Nov-2013.
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Picture contributed by Rafique from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken on 03-Nov-2013.
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Picture contributed by Rafique from his collection of roses in Lahore. Taken on 03-Nov-2013.


Dark red Hybrid Tea, Cl..
Registration name: Crimson Glory, Cl.
Discovered by Millar Bros. (South Africa, 1941). Discovered by Richardson (1944). Discovered by Antonio Naungayan (United States, 1946).
Introduced in United States by Jackson & Perkins Co. (Newark, NY) in 1946 as 'Crimson Glory, Cl.'.
Type: Climber, Hybrid Tea, Cl..
Description:
Dark red. Strong fragrance. up to 30 petals. Average diameter 6". Very large, very double bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
Climbing.
Height of 10' to 12' (305 to 365 cm).
USDA zone 6b and warmer.
Above Information source: HelpMeFind http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php




Rafique's Comments
One of beutiful and vigorous climber. Peforming good in our climatic conditions. Blooming repeatedly. Mine climber is planted in a large container and performing well though all roses peform very well in ground, planted in container because of space limitations.
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Re: Rose Database

Post by Mustansir Billah »

Mustansir Billah wrote:Please Identify the rose for Database.
Sharp Red color, No fragrance or slightly fragrant, Not very much petal count:-
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My rose looks similar to Crimson Glory but I think it is not a climber. Every thing foliage, flower size, petal count, flower shape and foliage color. Very very similar rose
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Re: Rose Database

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Crimson Glory was the first true dark red rose bred by Wilhem Kordes Snr in 1935. Rafique you may have taken the pictures in summer because this rose in picture is red not the crimson maroon color.
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Re: Rose Database

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UMARKHANMARDAN wrote:Crimson Glory was the first true dark red rose bred by Wilhem Kordes Snr in 1935. Rafique you may have taken the pictures in summer because this rose in picture is red not the crimson maroon color.
Umar Bhai you are commenting on following ie crimson glory bred by kordes in 1935
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Crimson Glory
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=1379

But the entry is of crimson glory climber. There is slight difference in color and number of petals in both. Please check the following link for reference. Color of this climber will be get darker with decrease in temperature but will not match the crimson glory bush. Also the fragrance of climber is less than bush.

Crimson Glory, Cl.

Discovered by Millar Bros. (South Africa, 1941). Discovered by Richardson (1944). Discovered by Antonio Naungayan (United States, 1946).
Introduced in United States by Jackson & Perkins Co. (Newark, NY) in 1946 as 'Crimson Glory, Cl.'.


http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1380.0

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Re: Rose Database

Post by UMARKHANMARDAN »

I see thats why i was thinking i may be wrong about Crimson Glory. So climber is different than the original bush form.
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Re: Rose Database

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Peace rose in my UK garden

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Please delete any snaps as you see fit to avoid cluttering up the forum
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Re: Rose Database

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Unknown as label was lost but suspect it is rose "Velvet Fragrance"

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Please move or amend or delete pics as you see fit

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