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I tried lilium bulbs first time. Out of six plants only one gave the flowers and all other dropped their flowering budds.
I have two questions
1. Reasons for drop of budds?
2. Plants will gain budd again or its over?
thanks
M.Rafique
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Re: Lilium Buds Dropped
How did you plant them?
Perhaps the bud drop was due to starvation.
Perhaps the bud drop was due to starvation.
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Re: Lilium Buds Dropped
It may be of some help.
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• Posted by gardengal48 PNW zone 8 (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 26, 11 at 17:29
First, there is no such species. What is sometimes referred to as Lilium asiaticum are really a diverse group of Asiatic hybrids. These are usually grouped as Division I in the classification of the genus and include parentage from a range of species common to central and eastern Asia.
In North America, these are considered some of the hardiest and easiest lilies to grow. If soil drainage in winter is good, these bulbs can remain in the ground and in time will naturalize to form large colonies. They typically bloom in late spring or early summer. After the flowers fade, the stems and leaves will remain green for several months and should be allowed to remain in place and continue to photosynthesis and recharge the bulb until they naturally dry and turn brown - then they can be removed.
Asiatic lilies do require a chill or cool, dormant period so in warmer climates - certainly your zone 11/12 - they should be dug after the stalks turn brown and dry up, stored in a refrigerator at around 35F (2C) for at least 6-8 weeks before replanting. And I would try to avoid too much rainfall or irrigation if possible. At the very least, make sure you have exceptionally well draining soil.
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• Posted by pizzuti 5A (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 27, 11 at 3:13
Are you talking about Asiatic lilies? I've never seen them referred to as Lilium Asiaticum but I don't see any other lily species it could be referring to.
On the other hand there are a lot of species known as "asiaticum" from a number of families.
If you are speaking of Asiatic lilies, they are very common in cultivation in temperate areas. They do require a cold period to start growing; if you don't have a natural winter, 10 weeks is a good length to chill them artificially.
They normally sprout in spring when most spring bulbs like tulips and daffodils are blooming. They continue growing and bloom in summer, maybe 10 weeks on average after appearing above the soil, and after the flowers fade the remaining stems maintain their leaves until late fall or frost.
That probably works out to another 10-15 weeks of leaves remaining after the flowers die; the longer the better if you want to grow them as perennials, which they easily can be.
Unlike a lot of spring bulbs which seem to be able to store a year's growth worth of energy in the bulb, a year's flowers get a lot of their energy from the same year's growth; unlike spring bulbs Asiatic lilies won't be able to pull off flowering indoors unless you have them in very bright light and ideal growing conditions.
I would imagine that in a tropical climate, planting them outside in the ground or container after chilling would work well for them as long as they are in bright light.
They do need to be lifted in order to be chilled artificially. Otherwise, there is no need for those growing in climates with natural winters to lift them until they are overcrowded.
They do naturalize and multiply well. The subsequent year you might get 2-3 plants for every one that was there the year before.
Asiatic lily bulbs never grow completely dormant, so unlike other bulbs, you want to store them in a bag of slightly-moistened soil, or keep them in the ground. They will have roots constantly. However as far as the garden is concerned, they are completely absent all winter.
The bolbs also grow roots from stem above the bulb, so must be planted deep about 6 inches. Surface planting will starve the plant.
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• Posted by gardengal48 PNW zone 8 (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 26, 11 at 17:29
First, there is no such species. What is sometimes referred to as Lilium asiaticum are really a diverse group of Asiatic hybrids. These are usually grouped as Division I in the classification of the genus and include parentage from a range of species common to central and eastern Asia.
In North America, these are considered some of the hardiest and easiest lilies to grow. If soil drainage in winter is good, these bulbs can remain in the ground and in time will naturalize to form large colonies. They typically bloom in late spring or early summer. After the flowers fade, the stems and leaves will remain green for several months and should be allowed to remain in place and continue to photosynthesis and recharge the bulb until they naturally dry and turn brown - then they can be removed.
Asiatic lilies do require a chill or cool, dormant period so in warmer climates - certainly your zone 11/12 - they should be dug after the stalks turn brown and dry up, stored in a refrigerator at around 35F (2C) for at least 6-8 weeks before replanting. And I would try to avoid too much rainfall or irrigation if possible. At the very least, make sure you have exceptionally well draining soil.
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• Posted by pizzuti 5A (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 27, 11 at 3:13
Are you talking about Asiatic lilies? I've never seen them referred to as Lilium Asiaticum but I don't see any other lily species it could be referring to.
On the other hand there are a lot of species known as "asiaticum" from a number of families.
If you are speaking of Asiatic lilies, they are very common in cultivation in temperate areas. They do require a cold period to start growing; if you don't have a natural winter, 10 weeks is a good length to chill them artificially.
They normally sprout in spring when most spring bulbs like tulips and daffodils are blooming. They continue growing and bloom in summer, maybe 10 weeks on average after appearing above the soil, and after the flowers fade the remaining stems maintain their leaves until late fall or frost.
That probably works out to another 10-15 weeks of leaves remaining after the flowers die; the longer the better if you want to grow them as perennials, which they easily can be.
Unlike a lot of spring bulbs which seem to be able to store a year's growth worth of energy in the bulb, a year's flowers get a lot of their energy from the same year's growth; unlike spring bulbs Asiatic lilies won't be able to pull off flowering indoors unless you have them in very bright light and ideal growing conditions.
I would imagine that in a tropical climate, planting them outside in the ground or container after chilling would work well for them as long as they are in bright light.
They do need to be lifted in order to be chilled artificially. Otherwise, there is no need for those growing in climates with natural winters to lift them until they are overcrowded.
They do naturalize and multiply well. The subsequent year you might get 2-3 plants for every one that was there the year before.
Asiatic lily bulbs never grow completely dormant, so unlike other bulbs, you want to store them in a bag of slightly-moistened soil, or keep them in the ground. They will have roots constantly. However as far as the garden is concerned, they are completely absent all winter.
The bolbs also grow roots from stem above the bulb, so must be planted deep about 6 inches. Surface planting will starve the plant.
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Re: Lilium Buds Dropped
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Thanks for helpful information sir.
I actually planted then in containers and placed that under shade for one month ie in october. Then i realize that their buds started to weak and pale instead of green color. then i placed all the container in direct sun light. But after that only plant gave full and beautiful bloom and all other dropped.
I think all this happened becuase of less light? placing the bulbs in shade instead of light? i read some where they require direct light for healthy buds and blooms? lack of light may be one cause for weakening of buds?
regards
Thanks for helpful information sir.
I actually planted then in containers and placed that under shade for one month ie in october. Then i realize that their buds started to weak and pale instead of green color. then i placed all the container in direct sun light. But after that only plant gave full and beautiful bloom and all other dropped.
I think all this happened becuase of less light? placing the bulbs in shade instead of light? i read some where they require direct light for healthy buds and blooms? lack of light may be one cause for weakening of buds?
regards
Rafique